Comments on: Updated Console Keyboard Shortcuts in Firefox

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Mon, 14 Apr 2014 02:55:16 +0000

[…] 입력창이 활성화되어 필요하다면 닫지않고 항상 툴박스를 열어둡니다. robcee의 블로그에 이 변경 사항에 대한 더 자세한 이야기가 답겨있습니다. (개발 […]

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淺談 Firefox 30 開發者工具 | 訊息中心 | Mozilla Taiwan — Thu, 10 Apr 2014 06:31:54 +0000

[…] 主控台的快捷鍵 (cmd+alt+k 或 ctrl+shift+k) 有新動作了。此快捷鍵將隨時注意網頁主控台中的輸入行，並視需要而開啟工具箱且不會關閉工具箱。可參閱 robcee 的部落格以進一步了解。(可參閱此開發討論記錄) […]

By: Rob Campbell

Rob Campbell — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 19:02:51 +0000

sounds like a great idea for an addon!

By: thinsoldier

thinsoldier — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 18:21:35 +0000

Off topic but related:

There needs to be a central registry of some kind in the browser where all extensions can put all of the keyboard shortcuts they offer and then the user can look at that list and see clearly that (for example) cmd+p is registered by firefox itself and 3 other extensions and the most recently installed extension has control of cmd+p. The user can then choose which of the 3 extensions they want to give cmd+p to or choose none and let firefox remain in control of cmd+p.

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Tue, 25 Mar 2014 16:05:08 +0000

[…] line in web console at all times, opening the toolbox if necessary but never closing it. There are more details about this change on robcee’s blog. (development […]

By: rob

rob — Fri, 14 Feb 2014 01:01:37 +0000

Hey BlueMM, I can guarantee it's not arrogance fueling our need for shortcut keys. It's the same need those addons you mention have: they just want a keyboard shortcut. You're right though, I think we need to do something better. Maybe only enable our keyboard shortcuts after a user has activated the devtools once? We could have one global key (probably cmd-alt-i or ctrl-shift-i or F12) for first time activation and that triggers the rest of them. Ideally, we should really make them preference controlled. Thanks for the comment. I filed bug 972661 to explore this. also filed bug 972662 to provide some customization.

By: BlueMM

BlueMM — Fri, 14 Feb 2014 00:42:14 +0000

I find the devtool shortcut keys jarring. Either I use a combination from another program by mistake, or one for an Addon I have been using for many years. I occasionally use the inbuilt devtools, but more likely Firebug as I am much more familiar. I think the new devtools are a great addition & much needed to move the web platform further.
That said, I have a feeling that there’s a certain arrogance (in want of a better word) in adding all these shortcut keys for devtools. The majority of Firefox users will have no need for any devtools, they seem to be using up every last key combo available & stomping on any combo from Addon’s that the user may have (who have a nightmare job to pick one that doesn’t clash with anything else).
Unsure what the ideal solution would be, but I don’t think the current situation is beneficial to Firefox users.